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Yes, the libtiff project has its own Coverity as 'tiff'=2E The tiff utiliti=
es are not ignored, but of course they will only be included if they are bu=
ilt=2E

Bob

On Apr 19, 2024, 7:24=E2=80=AFAM, at 7:24=E2=80=AFAM, Kurt Sch=
wehr via Tiff <tiff@lists=2Eosgeo=2Eorg> wrote:
>Does the tiff project have=
 Coverity setup? It might be good to have
>since
>GDAL's Coverity runs will=
 not check any of the tiff tools=2E
>
>On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 1:35=E2=80=
=AFAM Sulau via Tiff <tiff@lists=2Eosgeo=2Eorg>
>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've=
 drafted a proposal for request for comment (RFC) at
>> https://gitlab=2Eco=
m/libtiff/libtiff/-/merge_requests/581=2E
>>
>> Please provide feedback eit=
her within the merge request or via e-mail
>> reply=2E
>>
>>
>> Guidelines =
for the response to RFCs can be found at:
>> https://libtiff=2Egitlab=2Eio/=
libtiff/rfcs/rfc1_psc=2Ehtml
>>
>>
>> Summary:
>> ------------
>> The purpo=
se of this RFC is to clarify if and which tools that were
>moved to
>> the =
archive in libtiff 4=2E6=2E0 should be reactivated=2E
>>
>> Prehistory:
>> =
-------------
>> The very old and unmaintained tools in libtiff caused many=

>vulnerabilities
>> and CVEs that were attributed to the libtiff library i=
tself=2E
>> Trying to fix the security holes in the tools turned out to be =
a
>Sisyphean
>> task (can never be done)=2E
>> Therefore, most of the tools=
 in libtiff 4=2E6=2E0 were moved to the
>archive and
>> the existing proble=
ms were closed with "wontfix-unmaintained"=2E
>>
>> It was later understood=
 that some users depend on some of these
>archived
>> tools=2E
>>
>> Some p=
roblems with the tools have now been fixed (see e=2Eg=2E
>> https://gitlab=
=2Ecom/libtiff/libtiff/-/merge_requests/569)=2E
>>
>>
>> Proposed Procedure=
:
>> -------------------------
>> -       Only the required tools should be=
 activated=2E These are:
>fax2ps,
>> tiff2bw, tiff2pdf, tiff2ps
>>         =
as well as the already active tools tiffcp, tiffdither,
>tiffdump,
>> tiffi=
nfo, tiffset, tiffsplit=2E
>>
>> -       Thus following tools will not be r=
estored and will remain in
>the
>> archive: fax2tiff, pal2rgb, ppm2tiff,
>>=
         raw2tiff, rgb2ycbcr, thumbnail, tiff2rgba, tiffcmp, tiffcrop,
>> t=
iffgt, tiffmedian=2E
>>
>> -       Bugfixes in MR !569 are applied in singl=
e merge requests for
>> traceability and selectively
>>         as some cha=
nges might not be applicable=2E
>>
>> -       Remove "wontfix-unmaintained"=
 from closed issues, when fixed=2E
>>
>> -       All issues related to util=
ities / tools shall get label
>"utility"=2E
>>
>> -       The documentation=
 and other references shall point to
>> https://libtiff=2Egitlab=2Eio/libti=
ff/=2E
>>
>> -       After an initial merge has been applied for restoring =
the
>tools,
>> the
>> www=2Elibtiff=2Eorg page
>>         shall be reset as=
 a mirror of
>https://libtiff=2Egitlab=2Eio/libtiff/=2E
>>
>> -       Final=
ly release as 4=2E7=2E0 when all known issues of the tools
>are
>> closed=
=2E
>>
>> References to previous contributions to the discussion:
>> ------=
------------------------------------------------------------
>>       https=
://gitlab=2Ecom/libtiff/libtiff/-/issues/580 and related
>merge
>> request
=
>>       https://www=2Easmail=2Ebe/msg0054917226=2Ehtml
>>       https://ww=
w=2Easmail=2Ebe/msg0055015786=2Ehtml
>>       https://gitlab=2Ecom/libtiff/=
libtiff/-/merge_requests/569
>>
>> Regards
>> Su
>>
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"zoom: 0%;"><div dir=3D"auto">Yes, the lib=
tiff project has its own Coverity as 'tiff'=2E The tiff utilities are not i=
gnored, but of course they will only be included if they are built=2E<br><b=
r></div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Bob</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote" >On Apr 19,=
 2024, at 7:24=E2=80=AFAM, Kurt Schwehr via Tiff &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tiff=
@lists=2Eosgeo=2Eorg" target=3D"_blank">tiff@lists=2Eosgeo=2Eorg</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0=2E8ex;=
 border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir=
=3D"ltr">Does the tiff project have Coverity setup? It might be good to hav=
e since GDAL's Coverity runs will not check any of the tiff tools=2E</div><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri,=
 Apr 19, 2024 at 1:35=E2=80=AFAM Sulau via Tiff &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tiff@=
lists=2Eosgeo=2Eorg">tiff@lists=2Eosgeo=2Eorg</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=2E8ex;border-lef=
t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
I've drafted a =
proposal for request for comment (RFC) at<br>
<a href=3D"https://gitlab=2Ec=
om/libtiff/libtiff/-/merge_requests/581" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blan=
k">https://gitlab=2Ecom/libtiff/libtiff/-/merge_requests/581</a>=2E&nbsp; <=
br>
<br>
Please provide feedback either within the merge request or via e-m=
ail reply=2E<br>
<br>
<br>
Guidelines for the response to RFCs can be found=
 at:<br>
<a href=3D"https://libtiff=2Egitlab=2Eio/libtiff/rfcs/rfc1_psc=2Eh=
tml" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://libtiff=2Egitlab=2Eio/lib=
tiff/rfcs/rfc1_psc=2Ehtml</a> <br>
<br>
<br>
Summary:<br>
------------<br>
=
The purpose of this RFC is to clarify if and which tools that were moved to=
<br>
the archive in libtiff 4=2E6=2E0 should be reactivated=2E<br>
<br>
Pre=
history:<br>
-------------<br>
The very old and unmaintained tools in libti=
ff caused many vulnerabilities<br>
and CVEs that were attributed to the lib=
tiff library itself=2E <br>
Trying to fix the security holes in the tools t=
urned out to be a Sisyphean<br>
task (can never be done)=2E <br>
Therefore,=
 most of the tools in libtiff 4=2E6=2E0 were moved to the archive and<br>
t=
he existing problems were closed with "wontfix-unmaintained"=2E<br>
<br>
It=
 was later understood that some users depend on some of these archived<br>
=
tools=2E<br>
<br>
Some problems with the tools have now been fixed (see e=
=2Eg=2E<br>
<a href=3D"https://gitlab=2Ecom/libtiff/libtiff/-/merge_request=
s/569" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://gitlab=2Ecom/libtiff/li=
btiff/-/merge_requests/569</a>)=2E<br>
<br>
<br>
Proposed Procedure:<br>
--=
-----------------------<br>
-&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Only the required t=
ools should be activated=2E These are: fax2ps,<br>
tiff2bw, tiff2pdf, tiff2=
ps <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; as well as the already active tools tif=
fcp, tiffdither, tiffdump,<br>
tiffinfo, tiffset, tiffsplit=2E<br>
<br>
-&n=
bsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Thus following tools will not be restored and will=
 remain in the<br>
archive: fax2tiff, pal2rgb, ppm2tiff, <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; raw2tiff, rgb2ycbcr, thumbnail, tiff2rgba, tiffcmp, tiffcrop=
,<br>
tiffgt, tiffmedian=2E<br>
<br>
-&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Bugfixes i=
n MR !569 are applied in single merge requests for<br>
traceability and sel=
ectively<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; as some changes might not be appli=
cable=2E<br>
<br>
-&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Remove "wontfix-unmaintained"=
 from closed issues, when fixed=2E<br>
<br>
-&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;All=
 issues related to utilities / tools shall get label "utility"=2E<br>
<br>
=
-&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;The documentation and other references shall po=
int to<br>
<a href=3D"https://libtiff=2Egitlab=2Eio/libtiff/" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer" target=3D"_blank">https://libtiff=2Egitlab=2Eio/libtiff/</a>=2E<br>
<=
br>
-&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;After an initial merge has been applied for=
 restoring the tools, the<br>
<a href=3D"http://www=2Elibtiff=2Eorg" rel=3D=
"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www=2Elibtiff=2Eorg</a> page<br>
&nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp; &nbsp; shall be reset as a mirror of <a href=3D"https://libtiff=
=2Egitlab=2Eio/libtiff/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://libti=
ff=2Egitlab=2Eio/libtiff/</a>=2E<br>
<br>
-&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Final=
ly release as 4=2E7=2E0 when all known issues of the tools are<br>
closed=
=2E<br>
<br>
References to previous contributions to the discussion:<br>
--=
----------------------------------------------------------------<br>
&nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href=3D"https://gitlab=2Ecom/libtiff/libtiff/-/issues/580=
" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://gitlab=2Ecom/libtiff/libtiff=
/-/issues/580</a> and related merge<br>
request<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a=
 href=3D"https://www=2Easmail=2Ebe/msg0054917226=2Ehtml" rel=3D"noreferrer"=
 target=3D"_blank">https://www=2Easmail=2Ebe/msg0054917226=2Ehtml</a> <br>
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